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BoredJoe · Oct 13, 2006, 02:04 PM // 14:04

Has anyone noticed any increase in botting in Aspenwood? Sure there are always the leechers who do nothing, those who move then stand around and do nothing a little way into the match.

I've started to notice one or two known leechers start to move around a large area inside of the kurzick side but basically do nothing. At first I thought that the person who was leeching had decided to play but I'm inclined to think it was a bit more "advanced" botting program.

Anyone else notice this? As A.Net have said leeching is not a problem in FA do you think FA will eventually become populated by botting programs? And will it be a safe haven/training ground for botting programs?

Clone · Oct 13, 2006, 02:08 PM // 14:08

If they're just running around the edges, they might be people going for a Cartographer title.

BoredJoe · Oct 13, 2006, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clone

If they're just running around the edges, they might be people going for a Cartographer title.

Nah these are 1 or 2 players who used to stand around and do nothing for a number of games but who are moving around now, but who still essentailly do nothing, which is really weird.

Redwinter · Oct 13, 2006, 02:25 PM // 14:25

I've noticed them too.

Anet said leeching wasn't a problem? Source?

Angel Develin · Oct 13, 2006, 02:27 PM // 14:27

yesterday 2 guys botting (i saw them in more battles standing doing nothing) and 2-3 leavers in 1 battle............. aspenwood is FUN, yay!!!!!

There was a time I played everyday there, but this days?---------------------

Franco · Oct 13, 2006, 02:49 PM // 14:49

They might not be bots, check the guild tags, they are probably people trying to sabotage the map, trust me in faction farming alliances there are A LOT of these "weirdos", that hate luxon/kurzick so much they actually waste their time doing this ^^ lol.

Ole Man Bourbon · Oct 13, 2006, 02:52 PM // 14:52

Aspenwood is really 5v5. If you have the right couple of builds, you can win with about 3 people, on either side.

Trvth Jvstice · Oct 13, 2006, 03:12 PM // 15:12

Botters and leechers are annoying, but Ft Aspenwood is such a fun mission, I enjoy it anyway. Win or lose, you still get rewarded.

I believe that most people running botting programs will eventually get caught and banned.

Jetdoc · Oct 13, 2006, 03:35 PM // 15:35

The latest bot I've seen in Aspenwood is a monk that runs around in a circle and constantly spams Heal Party and Heal Area. Seems like a simple program to run, and does just enough (without needing to target) to draw suspicion away from him.

leeky baby · Oct 13, 2006, 03:44 PM // 15:44

i just had 5 leeacher in a AB yay that was fun

Clone · Oct 13, 2006, 03:51 PM // 15:51

I even think the term "bot" gets tossed around too much in this context too. It certanly wouldn't take any third party software to do most of the described behavior, even running multiple clients at once.

At any rate, these occurances are very annoying, and one of the biggest failures of the faction system. Linking a PvP game where people can idle and benifit to a PvE reward that can be sold was a horrible idea.

Joao Ninguem · Oct 13, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56

Im tired of these leechers, and anet does absolutely NOTHING about this.

Ridiculous.

wildcide · Oct 14, 2006, 01:16 AM // 01:16

I did see some very unusual behavior in the Frost gate. About 10+ mo/w would arrive run to the anvil rock sign then to merchant and then disappear and this would happen continuously over and over, it was in international district 1, asked them what was going on and non replied. Any of you lot seen this too.

Opeth11 · Oct 14, 2006, 01:22 AM // 01:22

Don't tell me they're botting the minotaurs there, too >_>

donaldbrooke · Oct 17, 2006, 08:02 AM // 08:02

Leechers in FA are becoming a problem. it is not uncommon to get 3 or more leeches in a team. It would not be as big a problem if it happened to both sides but it more often than not happens to one group taking the fun out of what can be an enjoyable part of the game.
Maybe areanet should start leeching faction points from those that just stay in the initial area. I know this will only work for a while but at least it will be some penalty.

lg5000 · Oct 17, 2006, 08:11 AM // 08:11

Oh oh oh.. *gets exited* there are Minotaures in fort aspenwood?

Linksys · Oct 17, 2006, 09:12 AM // 09:12

I used to fight in Fort Aspenwood. I still would but I don't like it when there are leechers.

They should make it so you have to touch combat in some way, otherwise you earn no faction.

Leechers don't really care if you leave because of them because, win or lose, they get faction.

There is a way that may help in taking action against leechers. But it would require a lot of organization to the point where it's a widespread trend.

In the battle, the teams can use local chat to communicate with each other and find out if there are any leechers.

If there are any on the Kurzick team, everyone can agree to leave. However, one person on the Luxon team would volunteer to stay in there, otherwise the Kurzick leecher wins and gets faction. And the volunteer Luxon would go around, chat, things like that so that any Anet staff who may be observing will know which is the bot and which isn't. The volunteer can rack up drunkard title points or something.

If there is a Luxon leecher, same thing other way around.

If there are leechers on both sides, everyone who's not a leecher can leave. The leechers can just stay and get nothing.

I'm sure something like this won't actually happen. But I do remember being on the Luxon side when the Kurzick team told us about a couple of leechers. They let us get through and kill them repeatedly :-).

Iscana · Oct 17, 2006, 09:36 AM // 09:36

Maybe it sounds stupid, but when I readed all those posts I remember all the time about leavers in Random Arena. Everyday I join RA and do like 10 matches, there are at least 8 or 7 matches were someone comes in and do nothing else then just stand on the spawn or they join and directly leave even without being able to get a glimpse of there GW character.

I also noticed people standing still and doing nothing in FA, and yes it's fustrated, even when you're a luxon fighting on the kurzick side to finish you PvE missions and quests. I hope that A.net will solve this with a sort of punishment. Like when you have 10.000 factions or somewere between and leave without finishing the match, you lose an amount of factions depending on the time you've playing that match. For example: FA leave in 5 sec will lose you 1000 factions, when 10 minutes it will be around 100 factions or something.
For people joining and playing that match, it's np, cause you want to play, so what's the point of leaving? Ofcourse this doesn't solve the leechers, but at least the Arena and Battle leavers which I really <lot of bad words here> hate, and that's also 1 point why I don't like PvP, cause always there's someone leaving, ok maybe I should do team arena or HA, but anyways I like to do RA as well just to get something unexpected towards me, but in some cases it's too much unexpected leavers.

I'm sure A.net can come up with solutions for leechers, bots and such, you just need a creative mind to solve such problems and find bots by keeping track of players stats or whatever. A.net saying there is no problems with leavers and leechers, well maybe they have to think about to put someone of the A.net team more into play, cause it is a problem on certain times.

Mr_eX · Oct 17, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45

Fort Aspenwood is the worst example of Guild Wars PvP that exists thusfar. Leechers make the arena completely miss the mark.

dargon · Oct 17, 2006, 05:50 PM // 17:50

so let the leeches have FA, everyone goto the Jade Quarry and leave them behind